Hi. How's it going?

Hi, it's going pretty, it's a little bit embarrassing, but it's going pretty well. Long time, long time no see. I'm going to say this. Who would have thought? Who would have thought?

No, don't worry, don't worry. I still understand. Don't worry. I trust me, we I I probably do 100 different things wrong for the label every day, so don't worry. I I redo things all the time, so I don't care.

But how has the past few days on your I have a video dropping second time around.

Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm excited. It's going to be a cool thing to put this one out because I think um, it's a really powerful song. I'm in my opinion. I think it's like the I think it's like the most intense one I've made in terms of just like the meaning behind it.

What's one thing that you think, like that might be low-key or high-key that you're going to change in maybe have a new mindset on over the next couple months?

Yeah, I think that like there there's probably multiple things I could list out right now, but I one that comes to mind is probably just not taking for granted like interactions with people. You know, like I I saw like a tweet somebody sent out the other day. It was like next time I see someone, like I'm going to hug them for like three hours long and and and like you see people now and you give them little like weird elbow like high fives and

you have the golf clubs behind you. You haven't you haven't been golfing?

Oh yeah. I just uh, shout out to a friend of mine. His name's Coach Rusty. He like he runs a uh, he runs an amazing Instagram account where he does like trick golf shots and uh, I've been I've been friends with him for a little bit now and he he um, I reached out because I needed golf clubs and he sent me this. So Coach Rusty, if anyone's watching this and knows who he is or doesn't, check him out. He's awesome. But no, I've been I've been golfing a little bit with some friends. There's been some courses out here in LA that have been opening to like public courses. You have to wear like masks and stuff. But um, golf's one of those sports where like it's naturally like a social distance sport. So yeah, you can kind of get by. But uh, but yeah, taking up this is one of my new hobbies. So like I'm taking up some new stuff. So no, golf's yeah, golf.

Golfing has been, I think I've seen so much on my Instagram story, just people my age, people older. Like guys have just radiated to like video games and golfing.

Yeah, because honestly, I always grew up like, why does my dad like golf? It seems so boring. But now is like some of an older person, like I'm like, oh, you don't really need much athletic ability. You don't move a lot. You can you can drink on the course, like Yeah, it has everything that I love. So, I'll I'll probably just stick to this now.

I love it. And you do have the song out, a letter to my younger self. And I know when we did the interview before, it was so interesting to me that you did go from like a desk job to now being a huge music artist. Like that's what radiated with me now that we're doing it again. But what is one of the things that you would tell your younger self? Like I wanted to re-ask that.

Um, yeah, I think that's a great question because I think that's kind of like the that is the theme. I mean, that's what the album's called. So, like that is the the real question I think that like I want listeners to kind of ask themselves when they hear this uh, when they hear the project. I would say though, to answer your question, um, I would say just don't take things too seriously. Like don't get too stressed out about what's going on in in particularly like in high school. I think that's a time where we all kind of think it's like make or break and do or die and like whoever you're dating, you think you're going to marry and like whoever you're like friends with, you think you're going to be friends with forever and like not saying those things can't, you know, continue on, but I think we sort of beat ourselves up a lot during those four years and and um, just like if I could tell myself something, it'd just be like, just know that there's a lot more life to live after high school. It doesn't dictate the the way that things are going to go for the rest of your life. It's just a small sort of chapter in the greater story of your life. So

And it is really good advice too, because a lot of like, because I am college age. So, a lot of my friends are like, I should just go do another year or something like that. And it's like, it is that's such good advice because it's like it's going to like everything's going to be okay. Like don't take everything too seriously. Like

And that honestly, yeah, and like that that question even applies, like you said, like college college kids too because like I I went to school and was like an advertising major and now I'm doing music. So like it just goes to show you that like you're you don't have to be too like um, attached to what you're studying or think that's the only thing that you're going to ever have the chance to do in your life. So, yeah, just keep an open mind and don't don't get too stressed out about things. It it sounds easy to say that, but I think um, I think it's I think it's uh, yeah. It's true.

Yeah, yeah. And the song did feature Logic. So, he was on the song. What have you, how have you been keeping in touch with other music artists while you've been at home?

I mean, honestly, similar to kind of like how you and I are speaking, like it's over FaceTime and, you know, just distant phone calls and stuff.

And then you do have an album dropping soon, which is very, very exciting. What is your favorite song, if you can say the name from it, or just one you've done in general, and what is your wife's favorite song of yours?

Uh, my favorite song, I think my favorite song off of it off of it is called, um, Notice Me, which isn't it it's going to just be like a It's not going to be a single. It's just going to be on the album. So, when you get the album, you'll hear it. But um, yeah, that one just it speaks on like me as like a shy kid, um, in high school and and um, I don't know. I just love the way it sounds. I'm playing guitar on it. I don't I don't do a lot of like live instrumentation on my songs, but that's one song that where like I'm I'm actually like playing a little bit. So, it's it was it was cool to do that. So, yeah, and then my wife's favorite song. I think my wife's favorite song is this one that comes out tonight. Uh, Second Time Around, which by the time this is out, the song will have been out by now. But yeah.

To work like creating it and writing it, did she have any idea what the song you were writing and creating it or she only heard it when it was done?

She just heard it when it was done. Yeah.

Okay, cool. That's so fun. Oh my God.

Yeah, yeah. Hopefully you guys enjoy it as much as she does. I don't think you're going to like it as much as she does, but hopefully you will.

I love it. Is there one song that she always plays when she's around the house? Or when you're in the car?

Not Not really. Um, sometimes, you know what's funny, it's like sometimes we'll be doing like cooking or whatever and and like we'll have a playlist on and maybe some like a song of mine will pop up. Um, but like if she deliberately puts a song on of mine, I'll be I'll be the one to be like, sweetheart, let's take this off the the the phone because it's just I'm I'm still a little awkward when I hear my own music in the car with like friends and stuff. So like with her, like sometimes I I let it slide, but like more likely than not, I'll just be like, can we just like change it?

How about we do the game if you're down with that?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay. It's this or that again, but I don't you probably don't remember what they were before.

No, I don't.

Okay, okay, guys. So that. Okay. Listening to your own songs or someone else's?

I think I just answered that one. Uh, someone else's.

Um, voice call or FaceTime?

FaceTime.

TikTok or Instagram?

Instagram. But I like TikTok. TikTok is really fun.

Love Me Less or Flare Guns?

I do remember this question now. Um, I'm going to say I'm going to say Flare Guns, but like I I asked I told you last time, I still love Love Me Less, Max, who's that's Max's song that I'm with. Um, Love Max, he's amazing. Um, but yeah.

You definitely said that last time. The exact thing. I love it. Um, going out or staying in?

Staying in.

Black heart emoji or red heart emoji?

Red heart emoji.

How is your wife's name saved in your phone?

Um, just by her name. Just by her name, Macy. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know if you had a red heart by it.

No, no, no.

Uber Eats or Postmates?

Postmates.

How many times do you think you've ordered Postmates in the last three months?

Oh my gosh. Um, probably last three months, like in somewhere in the hundreds. Like I don't even know. I don't I don't really want to think about it too much. But yeah, not good.

But I have been doing better at like grocery shopping. So, um, that's that number is like less lessening, but definitely like an unhealthy amount. Yeah.

Uber or Lyft?

Uber.

Texting or DMing?

Uh, texting.

Netflix or Hulu?

I would say Hulu actually. Um, Hulu, I've been finding some really good shows on there lately. I I feel like that's probably like the unpopular answer. But Hulu's got some good stuff. Um, I would I would recommend anyone listening to this to give Hulu a shot. Netflix is obviously great, but Hulu's Hulu is uh, don't be afraid to give it a shot. Yeah, don't be, yeah, just try it out.

Light sleeper or heavy sleeper?

Um, light sleep uh, I would say light sleeper going to bed I have a bad I like I can't fall asleep easily, but once I'm like in my sleep, I'm like knocked out. So, it's kind of kind of half and half. Um,

Early to bed or early to rise or sleep in?

Sleeping, for sure.

What time did you get up this morning? It's like 10:00 a. m. now in.

I I yeah, I have some I had like I had like press all day today. So, I actually this today's been an earlier day than I than normal. But um, like I got up at like 7:30 today. But like and I say that I say that cautiously because I have friends who like get up at like 6:00 a. m. and they think they think I'm just like such a whoops and like Yeah, but Yeah. Um,

Bar or club?

Bar. Dive bar specifically.

Lil Uzi Vert or Logic?

Both of them. I remember that one too. Both they're I can't I can't give one or the other. They're all they're all just they're both amazing. Amazing people, amazing artists. I'll say both.

The ones that I'm trying to out you are the ones that you have to say both for. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for talking to us today again.

Of course, of course. Yeah, you guys are awesome. Anytime, just hit me up.

Thank you so much. Appreciate it.