Selena Gomez, your executive producer. She was obviously, she was bullied um when she was younger as well and she's been very open about it um since. Has she given you any advice like while she was on set or tell you any stories about her personal life as well?

Actually, at the premiere, we had a chance to speak for the first time and uh yeah, she shared some of her experiences with me and uh me with her and it was it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool to see that I wasn't the only one who went through some bullying back when I was younger.

Yeah. I feel like a lot of people too don't realize that it's so common. Even like the littlest things and now with social media, it's even more common than ever.

Oh. Yeah, it's it's hard. I mean, with social media. I'm even seeing it now, for instance. Uh, the characters we play on TV, you know? We we are not those characters. Right. So, people tend to I I noticed it on my Instagram, people tend to attack us or attack other characters in the show. And it's hard because we see that and, you know, we try not to let it affect us but it's hard. It's hard when people are telling us, you know, that they hate us or whatnot, so. Yeah. Just I hope this show encourages people to spread kindness.

We actually had your co-star um Justin, Prentice in recently. Um and he was definitely he was talking about the same thing where people are saying, you know, he's Bryce and all of that and we, you know, wanted to make sure that everyone knew that it was just a character that you guys are playing and all of that, so.

I I mean, anybody else from the cast, I mean, out of everybody, I think Justin is the nicest, most kind-hearted person. So, for him to get that role, it's I kudos to him because that's that's a very tough character to portray. Yeah. And then to get out of that character and to receive the feedback that he's getting. I mean, I just wish him nothing but the best and I'm we're all sticking up for him because like I said, he's playing a character. That's not him in her life.

Do you have any favorite memes because you're all over them? The #JeffAtkinsDeservesBetter. They're like all over. Which one's your favorite?

Um. I saw the one with uh Sammy from Jersey Shore that she's like screaming and she's like, Jeff Atkins was a good kid, he just wanted to get his grades up. And then there was another one um where there's a gentleman like this and he's like, if you don't watch episode 10, Jeff Atkins will die. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah, so people are clever. You guys are very, very clever.

I saw one where it's a picture of you or Jeff who you're kind of like holding your forehead and it's like, me as I'm waiting for Clay to get through all these tapes.

I've seen that one. That was probably the most frustrating but most important part, I think, of like that show. Where you watch Clay struggle so much listening to Hannah's tapes and all of that. Um but it was it was making me like, oh my God, Clay, let's just let's go. I'll hold your hand while we do this. Like, you know what I mean?

I know, it's tough, it's tough because how do you why would you want to listen to something where that you have were a part of her death?

Yeah. I mean, I I see where he's coming from and I see why he's so hesitant. Luckily for Tony, you know, he got him through it.

Tony, he's just like the fairy godmother, isn't he? He's the guardian angel.

Yeah. I know. He always shows up at the right time. Just very calm, collected, he knows exactly what's happening. In every class. Yeah. You know, just always in his Mustang.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Tony. Thank you so much for coming by.

Thank you for having me.

We love you and 13 Reasons Why. We love you guys so much and um hopefully we'll get you back in here soon.

Absolutely.