Hello. How's everything going with you?

Good, it's good. It's uh, it's quarantine so.

Are you in California?

Yeah, I'm actually I'm down like a little south of L. A.

Okay, I got you. Got you. Is that where you grew up?

Yeah, I grew up down here um, in Orange County and then moved up to L. A. when I was like 17.

Oh, that's so nice. Ugh. What have you been doing to keep yourself busy?

I have been watching a lot of movies with my family. Um, yeah, just I don't know like honestly, I've just been like day by day getting through it. I've been watching new Netflix shows. Outer Banks is like one of my new favorite binge episodes.

That's blowing up right now. Outer Banks. First it was Too Hot to Handle, now Outer Banks is like everyone's talking about it.

Yeah, I didn't I didn't watch Too Hot to Handle, but maybe I should.

Uh, obviously we're going to talk about all things music today.

Mhm.

When you, the last thing you majorly did was go on tour with Pretty Much, right?

Yeah, that was like the last performance and and show that I really did.

What was your favorite thing about touring with them?

I mean, just being in front of fans and and and hanging out with fans and being face-to-face and performing. Obviously like I'm I'm really, you know, I really I really want my live show to be kind of what people remember me as and obviously the music and and my personality and things like that but like for for career-wise, I want my show to be something that is, you know, like a statement, you know, a staple part of who I am. So, definitely just doing that and and the live energy and and seeing fans face-to-face was is is like the best part.

Do you go back and watch the videos that were made during and like just get so hyped up when you watch it?

Literally like I'll go back I've done it probably twice already this whole quarantine just like go through the whole thing of just like damn, I miss this so much.

To feel something again.

Yeah.

What's one fan experience that you had on tour that you'll never forget. Like it just blew your mind.

Um, we had one where it was like the second day of tour. We had a we had a show in Seattle and then the next day we had an off day. And so we went to some like really nice mall in the middle of nowhere. We were like in Oregon or something. And we started it was like when Fortnite was really big and Zion and I we started playing Fortnite like in this like laser tag like lobby whatever and we sat down in this mall and like started playing and then a couple hours went by and we turned around and there was like like 30 fans probably behind us that had just showed up basically while we were playing. We had our headsets on and we had no idea so we like finished gaming. We stood up and we were like whoa. They're like, whoa, this is like a really real a real moment.

And that was in the mall. That was in the mall. Did you post that you were in the mall? They literally found you.

No, they found us. That's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty. It's so wild how like having like fans like that that just like find you and they're there and they're hanging out. Yeah. It's crazy. It's really it's like one of those things that just blows my mind, but like you know, I'm very thankful and and you know, hopefully stuff like that continues to happen because it just means that people care.

Yeah. And while you're cooped up at home how have you been interacting with them?

I've been so I've actually been doing like Zoom Zoom things with like group like a ton of people so instead of doing like an Instagram Live, I do a Zoom where I can like actually see face-to-face and like see people's reactions when I do certain things or when I perform a song or say and I can like click people and then have a conversation like you and I but then I can see everyone else still because sometimes on Instagram like I don't know like I'm not a really awkward person, but like sometimes it's hard on Instagram because I like I can't see anything, you know?

Mhm.

So other than bringing people in, I get to do that, but I also just get to see everyone, which is, you know, that's like the best.

Yeah, for sure. You get to see people. You have your single For Your Love.

Mhm.

That's a total bop by the way.

Thank you. Thank you.

What inspired that song?

So For Your Love, it's really like a almost a really desperate song. Um, it's like the hopelessness of what love really can be and and, you know, whether it's a couple that's been together or whether, you know, in the terms of what I wrote it was like this this person that that, you know, you've been with and and you know, you you know, and you love and then basically you have this whole thing and it's like you continually try and try and try to to get this person to the level of emotion that you are because you're just so infatuated with them. And um, so it's just a helpless feeling of like tell me what I like tell me what I have to do. Like I would move I would move mountains if I can just to make you understand like it it was, you know, it's a really big idea, but it's a really sweet. I love that song.

Was it inspired by something that happened to you? Like is it true?

Yeah, I mean I think I think I think there's a part of it that a part of every song that is true. And that one yeah, like there are definite times where like I have feelings for someone that that maybe they don't have the equivalent of of emotions. So.

Mhm.

That that it's really just like I said like a helpless desperate feeling of like I would literally like hand you every star just, you know.

So, if you heard your song play somewhere, like where's the one place you would just absolutely flip out if you heard it playing?

That's so funny you say that because I literally got a message I think yesterday from one of my buddies from like that I grew up with that I haven't seen in forever. Um, messaged me and said I just heard your song playing while I was getting like boba at some at some tea place and I was like, what? Like that's so cool. So, I don't know. I feel like if I was walking around like a mall or, you know, if I heard if I heard it anywhere, I think I'd be like pretty blown away.

Oh, yeah, definitely. Have you heard yourself on the radio yet?

No. Not yet.

Spotify, you just do you listen to your own music from Spotify or where are you listening to it?

I mean, it's funny because I as soon as everyone always asks me like do you listen to your own music? And the answer is yes, I listen to my own music until it gets released because like the amount of times that I've listened to For Your Love before like it even had its final version is like so many times. So by the time that it's actually like takes the process and goes through and then it actually comes out. I'm like, okay next song. Like I'm I'm I'm ready. Yeah. So I listen but if I listen to it, it comes on Spotify or because I supported myself, I bought it on Apple Music and I think I've bought like two things on Apple Music and so it plays in the car when I get in the car, which is funny.

Does it automatically like when you're phone.

Yeah. It automatically plays it. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, like what a play like Yeah. Exactly.

Have you ever just been playing it and it came up on shuffle from a random playlist on Spotify.

That's not yet. Not yet, but I I saw something that it was on like chill pop hits on Pandora. And I was like, no way so.

What who's one artist that you'd want to collab with?

I would love to collab with What's I mean, there are and I would love to collab with Bieber. I would love to collab with Dua Lipa. I would love to collab with um, Pink Sweat$. is one of my good friends who I think is really dope but we haven't linked yet. Um, honestly like there are so many artists. I would love, you know, I would love to collab with with there's this new artist Tate McRae who I think is super talented.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we interviewed her. And she writes.

You did?

Yeah, we're interviewing her like next week or something. I'll drop your name.

Go for it. She's awesome. She's she's I literally just like someone put me on to her new her new project. I listened through it. I was like this is really good. Like Yeah. She's a vibe. Yeah. She's really cool.

What's your What would be like a dream gig for you like sell out the Staples Center or.

Yeah, it's Staples Center. That's like that's like my if I could sell out the Staples Center that to me would like be the moment. I look in the mirror like you did it. Like you this is what you've always wanted. You did it. Yeah. That'd be insane. That'd be awesome.

And other than music what do you like just love doing?

Um, I mean, honestly like I'm an outdoors type of person. I'm it's funny. I'm like a homebody but also an outdoors type of person so like sometimes it takes a little effort to get me out of the house, but once I'm out I always love, you know, doing a bunch of fun fun things. I'm really spontaneous.

So, you know, like during this quarantine, I've been going on hikes. I bought an RC plane. I've been flying that even though I've crashed like four of them and had to just get a new one. Um, I've been trying to I don't know went tried to go to the beach one day and just kind of like keep my distance. But yeah, just hiking and, you know, hanging out with friends when this is all not happening and honestly, like my hobby straight up is is like performing.

Stuff you can still do.

And yeah, and writing songs and and, you know, stuff like that.

Is there any tea like are you new songs coming out soon? Will we expect anything in quarantine while we're still in it?

Yeah, so I I've written a couple songs in quarantine. I have a new song coming out pretty soon in the future. Um, it was supposed to come out actually when the acoustic version of For Your Love came out, but with all this quarantine and stuff happening and For Your Love um, getting some some sort of traction. I was like, let's just put an acoustic version out and let it sit out there for for a couple more weeks, but my next song that's coming out is uh, is a really exciting one.

And you can't tell us the name or nothing?

I can't say. No.

Okay. Well we're we'll keep an eye out. So when it is released, we'll be able to jump on. You can't say it. Will you write a song you think based off your feelings in quarantine?

You know, I actually have not about necessarily the feelings of quarantine, but definitely like the things that that weigh heavy on my heart on a normal day when I'm locked up inside weigh a little bit heavier, you know, whether that be like a breakup or whether that be, you know, wanting to do something for someone's love, you know? Everything comes back to For Your Love. It has to though, you know. Um, yeah, just just staying on top of mental health. That's like a huge, you know, thing for me. And you should quote me on my response to if I can say the next song title. Okay. Okay, trust me. It'll come around.

Okay. Okay, thank you so much.

I got you. Okay.

Okay. See you later. Bye.