You remember that you're my first. You remember this?

I do remember this and thank you for having me back.

Yeah, anytime. My first interview ever was this gentleman. Hey, I have a trivia question for you.

Yeah. I'm so bad at these things. I'm addicted to that quiz game and I'm terrible at it.

What is it? Triviaca.

Triviack. Yeah. What's the name of the quiz game? Triviack.

You're going to know the answer to this. What do you get when you mix not colors. I don't know the color wheel. Breaking Bad and House. You get our show Battle Creek.

There you go. So we had a lot of Breaking Bad fans that watched the first episode, something with House.

creators of the show.

creators of this right. I should back up.

Yes, let's back up.

Yeah. Okay, so Hey, you're a host now. No. You want to pitch it? You were doing a much better job as evidence by the fact that I just rolled into something that. When you segued. Go ahead.

So there's this show.

Yeah. It's a cop show that was created by Vince Gilligan who created Breaking Bad and David Shore who created House.

Now you're just dropping names. Those are great names to drop. If you drop, but then you have to pick it up.

I think who was it when we were on house? I think it was Olivia Wilde who made this game where if you're in a conversation and you name drop, she will stop you in the conversation.

God, I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, she's she'll do that. See, I always knew I loved that girl.

There you go. So um I saw the pilot of this show. There's a lot of claiming your territory and like this is our territory. This is a small town and then Josh comes in and he's kind of like, no, no, no.

Yes, he has a very cool character.

So he plays an FBI agent who gets transferred into this little town of Battle Creek, Michigan. The rest of us are cops and detectives in Michigan, in Battle Creek. And our version of that police department is totally underfunded. We don't even have, you know, the the right equipment to to Taser suspects. Josh's character comes in with all of this money and this big fancy office and there's a lot of tension between you know, whether he's actually helping us solve crimes or whether he's getting in the way of us knowing, you know, knowing how to do police work.

Josh could never get in the way.

He he ends up not getting in the way. No. I I read that you did the ride along with the cops in real life cops and you actually found the mundane part of their jobs really fascinating.

Super fascinating. The mundane parts of anybody's job is, you know, you're sitting around doing paperwork or in our industry you're prepping for something. There's a lot of time you're waiting around. With law enforcement or government work in general, there's a lot of paperwork and things that are really boring. These guys are sitting around for four hours and they're making fun of each other and they're making dick jokes and they're making, you know, totally inappropriate, you know, in between just to keep it lighthearted. And I loved that because you never see that side of things on the TV show Cops or obviously it shouldn't come up in any of the more serious conversations about law enforcement, right? In in our show Battle Creek, there's there's automatically a lot of humor. So having a chance to shadow real cops and seeing that they bring a lot of levity and humor to to their jobs was cool. And it's not totally unrealistic, right?

And you're not offending anybody either. Yeah. And what is this about the serial festival?

Yeah. So the real the real city of Battle Creek, which is a a very cool small city in the middle of Michigan. Every year, once a year they have an annual uh breakfast table, a serial festival. In our version of Battle Creek, there's an episode where there was a shooting at the serial festival.

Why are people pissed about cereal?

I think in fairness it was just once and it was a it it was two rival gangs. The Frosted Flakes versus the Kashi.

The Kashi gang is rough, man. I want to talk about the big picture. You're hosting. Oh, it's fascinating. Don't get me started.

Here's the big picture. There's more to crime than just the numbers. There's always a story behind the stats and you'd be surprised what plotting out the world's criminal activity can tell us about where crime's been, how it works, and where it's likely to pop up next. Now, let's take an entirely new look at how and where the business of crime really operates.

So wait, let's let's back up again because we're both not doing our hosting duties. Yeah, let's tell you guys about the show on National Geographic. I can't I'll just let you, you know. Please, go ahead.

We should have sat down and gone over what what I was going to say versus. All right. So there is all of this information, right? And what I like in our show too is you know, when you go on BuzzFeed and there are all these crazy maps, um that are you know, the country is shaded in different colors based on who listens to what kind of music or what kind of food people are eating in which places. So we essentially made a show based on that type of a concept, which is how do you put these weird data points that otherwise look boring into a way that seems really interesting. National Geographic with these really serious research teams and they came up with all of this random data that they would find on things like food and sex and crime and drugs and found a really interesting way to present it. So in every show, we have three segments where we go out into these random places around the world and interview people that are living these crazy uh awesome situations and story.

So you went to Florida where they have the apparently the most sex.

Yes. Oh, you know about this.

The old people. It's the old people.

It is. I love that you know this.

I'm listening to your show. No, go ahead. No, you go. No, you do it. You're doing it much more interestingly than I am.

Well, apparently the most sex to be had in the United States is in this retirement town in Florida. And it's people over the age of 60 or something.

Call your grandmother up and ask her what she's doing. If she don't answer and say she don't have an answering machine, Grandma's busy yo.

Yeah. So it's true. There's this data point that the researchers found. If I remember correctly, it was an uptick in STDs that they found in this particular zip code in Florida. Then they looked into it and they realized this is actually the community that's having the most sex in America. Then they looked into it even more and said, this is actually a senior citizen's community. And because they went to school before Sex Ed, right, they're older, so they their awareness of STDs is so low. They're not worried about getting pregnant, so they're just banging away not knowing that they could catch something.

Have you never been to a pharmacy, Grandma?

And the way that we approached the story was really from in in true Nacho fashion from a a curiosity angle of this is cool. Let's look into this instead of a judgmental haha. Look at that. Why are you having sex? You should know better. None of that. Like we think it's awesome.

And what's the grasshopper thing?

So the grasshopper thing, uh we were looking at uh sources of protein, right? There's all this conversation about everything from quinoa to fishing to

Look at you. Bring it back around like a good host.

It's but it's true. We're how do you find and and we we looked at what's the the most economically viable source of protein in the animal kingdom and it's grasshoppers. And so we sent a crew down there into really rural Mexico to work with a family that harvest grasshoppers and went out with them in the morning when they hunt them and cook them. I was shooting uh Battle Creek, so I couldn't go on that trip.

Well, we knew that. And today we brought you. No, you didn't. Oh, no. You did really? You took the grasshopper.

No. Cuz cuz I had two schools of thought in that half a second when I realized you're going to make me eat a grasshopper. I was like, all right, well, if it's if it's cooked the way that they are on the show, it'll be crunchy and there's a there's a Corona in that other room. So it's not the end of the day.

There you go. Now, did you find out if they um if they eat more cereal in Battle Creek than in other parts of the country.

Oh, I don't know. There's season two. This is a good question. Keep these coming cuz I like these ideas. What else you got?

Should you should I just come along and join National Geographic?

Now please. I mean don't think. Yes. So let's can we make this happen?

Yeah, there you go. The Cal and Nicki Show.